Birthday’s weren’t really celebrated in history, except for really rich or powerful people. Children’s birthdays originated in early 1800s Germany and spread. This was much similar to Christmas and other celebrations for kids, it practically was the Industrial Revolution that caused the practice to spread, suddenly people were wealthy enough and kids didn’t have to work enough to make it affordable.
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Pinata's vs Birthday's - classic JW hypocrisy
by joey jojo ini vaguely knew that the pinata had some kind of pagan origin and i assumed that having a pinata at a jw party was frowned on by the b0rg.
however, despite its blatant pagan origins, apparently i was wrong.. the 22 september, 2003 awake states that the aztecs would smash a clay pot full of 'treasures' in honour of the god huitzilopochtli's birthday.
spanish missionaries simply switched the pot for the pinata during the christian conversion of the aztecs.
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Miscarriage myths amongst JW
by Anony Mous inso i am having these discussions about children etc and there are witness ties and family history in these discussions.
i got the feeling having this discussion that they seemed to imply somehow it was ‘the parent’s fault’ for having a miscarriage.
whether it was domestic violence, or the mother did something wrong themselves.
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Anony Mous
So I am having these discussions about children etc and there are Witness ties and family history in these discussions. I got the feeling having this discussion that they seemed to imply somehow it was ‘the parent’s fault’ for having a miscarriage. Whether it was domestic violence, or the mother did something wrong themselves.
I knew my grandmother would express that and back in the day, that was kind of implied as well, but I thought that was mostly in the past. We never got the support we needed from the ‘elders’ but I always kind of put it on - well, they’re not experienced or trained to do grief counseling. But then now I’m hearing the same arguments still from a ‘younger’ generation, implications that it was something we must have done wrong.
I am just disgusted by the idea that in this day and age, somehow your kids die before they are born, it is because you sin and not some unknown or medical condition.
Anyone else grow up with that idea or stories you know in the same vein?
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What's a Good Question to Ask at the Door?
by NotFormer inthe jws haven't been to my door for a while, but i don't doubt that they'll turn up eventually*.
(i saw easter eggs in the supermarket yesterday, so "memorial" season is fast approaching 🙄).
what's a good question to ask, to get the ball rolling?.
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Anony Mous
Are you here for the orgy?
Seriously, unless you get some old geezer, you probably won’t find much substance anymore. They really flattened everything out to a few soundbites.
The times of “deep study” is over, what we knew as the “good” JW doesn’t exist anymore. You are basically a sales drone with a script, go off script and they will try to placate with a standard answer, ignore it, or even consider it a threat and hurry away.
I had one lady call my phone, within minutes she asked whether I was getting information from non-JW websites, she tried to pass it onto an elder, when I pressed her for her opinion, she said for more information to submit a request online and ended the call.
The people standing at the literature stand also have a scripted answer to any questions, want to know more, fill out the form on JW.org.
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144,000 + 1 kings
by moomanchu ini wonder why so many kings are needed for the millennial reign?
the almighty governing body says 24,000,000,000 people combined from those resurrected and the survivors of the big 'a' could make it into paradise.
that gives you 1 king for every 166,665 persons.
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Anony Mous
Where does the 24B come from? If nobody dies anymore, then over the first 1000 years alone we have so many people, you’d need to cover the entire surface of land with buildings stacking 100 stories high just to give them enough room to stand. If you didn’t do that, we’d each have space less than a skin cell to live on.
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A message from Barbara Anderson re: the health state of her hero, her husband, Joe Anderson
by jwleaks infrom barbara:.
my dear husband, joe anderson, has had very real problems with his short-term memory for at least a year which really worried me.
as his mental health deteriorated, i decided to have our local longtime physician talk alone with joe during an office visit last september.
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Anony Mous
Sorry to hear what you are going through is very tough. Make the best of the time you have left.
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What will happen to the Watchtower Religion now that Trump has Withdrawn from certain aspects of the United Nations.
by liam inso trump has signed an executive order to withdraw from the united nations human rights council, a refugee organization, some others parts as well and calls for a review of american involvement in funding of the united nations.
he said the united nations has not been living to its potential and they need to get their act together or just dissolve the organization completely.
he said america will continue to be a part of the un but it's tiring that the united states is the country that funds most of the monies and that can't continue.
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Anony Mous
The UN all but collapsed in the 90s with the wars in the Baltic where the UN would stand idly by while atrocities happened.
It is a forum for politicians to get some cheap wins and funnel trillions of dollars from rich nations to warlords and terrorists.
The UN is based in an international socialist ideal that you can centralize power into a superstate and arrange the affairs of the nations. It just doesn’t work like that.
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Is the US a democracy or a republic? Yes
by blondie inhttps://www.npr.org/2022/09/10/1122089076/is-america-a-democracy-or-a-republic-yes-it-is.
throughout our history we have functioned as both.
put another way, we have utilized characteristics of both.
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Anony Mous
There are three independent branches of government. Read the federalist papers if you want to understand how it works. Pure democracy typically centralizes power into the executive branch, hence why we should have small government, that way you cannot control everything from a single seat. Axing bureaucracy as Trump is doing now is reducing his power directly, thousands of bureaucrats that were wielding their own power structure while unelected are now voluntarily leaving, that is a good thing as that power is now returned to the states and flows down to the citizen.
If what you want to do in business or private is not regulated or there is no law against it, then it is allowed per the constitution. If the government wants to do something that is not regulated or has a bureaucrat or law for it, government is not allowed to do it. That’s the crux of the constitutional republic.
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Prague Czech Republic Considers WT Registration
by blondie inhttps://english.radio.cz/culture-ministry-considers-revoking-jehovahs-witnesses-registration-8841807 .
culture ministry considers revoking jehovah’s witnesses' registration.
the czech ministry of culture is considering revoking the religious registration of the jehovah’s witnesses, according to czech radio information.
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Anony Mous
Funny because I remember the convention they had in Prague as the first country in the ex Soviet Union that registered them.
It was a big JW-sponsored tourist-fest, sure that was one of the reasons they got registered.
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Characteristics of a Cult - Heaven's Gate
by dropoffyourkeylee inchacteristics of a cult - by my count, wt ticks 9 of the 12 boxes.
last night i watched a really interesting video (link below) put out by an ex-mormon site discussing the heaven's gate cult.
the person interviewed had a unique perspective in that he had firsthand contact with that group, specifically the house they lived in and the aftermath.
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Anony Mous
Where do you tick only 9? I tick all 12 of them.
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PENNSYLVANIA SENTENCING OF JW CHILD SEXUAL ABUSER
by blondie inhttps://www.attorneygeneral.gov/taking-action/case-update-philadelphia-jehovahs-witnesses-congregation-member-jailed-up-to-4-years-for-sexual-abuse-of-a-young-child/.
harrisburg — attorney general dave sunday announced that david balosa will serve two to four years in prison for using his standing as a member of a jehovah’s witnesses congregation in philadelphia to befriend, then sexually assault, a young child in 1998.... and https://www.newsbreak.com/daily-voice-525087/3786329373200-4-year-old-abused-by-jehovah-s-witness-gets-justice-pa-ag .
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It is a 10 year suspended sentence, so he has to serve 2-4 years, the rest he is on probation. Provided he doesn’t pick up any other cases and complies with his bond, his bond conditions expire within 10y, he picks up anything, DUI, assault, drugs, he spends the remainder of the sentence in prison. Likely lifelong registered sex offender.
Given his apparent age, this will basically follow him until he dies, if he doesn’t have an ‘accident’ in prison - these people if they go in gen pop don’t survive very long, so they often end up in protected custody, where you basically get a 4x4 cell, alone, 23h/day, 2x30m in the yard, alone. For weak minded ones, as long term JW often are, this is a trip to the looney bin in weeks-months.
The prison system has a good way of taking care of these people, criminals are often victims themselves. Some of the things they do, the guards may even let them.
If he does survive his ordeal, I know JW will take him back in, may even make him the poster child of some reformation or persecution, although they’ll call him André when they tell his story.